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Referencing Makes Me a Copier???

Fri Feb 29, 2008, 4:34 PM

Mood: Angsty
Reading: People of the Book by Geraldine Brooks

posted an interesting post, "Is referencing the same as copying?" I had no idea, but I guess many people on this site feel that if you use a reference picture and do nothing different to the pose than you're not referencing, but rather copying someone's work. Now, I've never referenced anyone on this site's original work but rather movie shots, and I always put that they're my interpretations (because let's face it, I'm not the greatest out there folks) of the pose or picture in question. But that still makes me a copier? Isn't that how one practices? Referencing? I free-hand the stuff I post, that doesn't make any difference? Your thoughts on this...

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~JigensMobsterGirl88 Feb 29, 2008, 5:15:24 PM

Most people will do that till they understand they can go beyond those reference poses, but if you are still in practice then I feel it is perfectly fine to do that.

Don't listen to everyone you hear as they have forgotten they too had done just that before they're traditional now methods.

My siblings were like that as much as I was. Don't feel ashamed of it as it is natural for one.

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*MouseAvenger Feb 29, 2008, 6:08:03 PM

To me, if it's freehand, it's not copying. Actually taking the *picture* itself is.

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~feystarlight Mar 2, 2008, 12:35:40 PM

When I was learning how to draw I would free hand copy other people work and some of that art I've posted on DA. However I alway mention that it is my copy of that work. If you're drawing a picture of even a stock photo that's copying. However if you're using a photo (really stock is the list ethically tangled) as reference for the angle someone legs is when they sit in a certain way or how the arm is forshorten then you could only call it copying if you say having a friend pose for you is copying them. Does that make sense?

~Gracie-Gru Mar 2, 2008, 5:04:05 PM

So if I take a reference shot of Ratigan like I have in my gallery, freehand the pose, post it's taken from a reference picture and that he's copyright of Disney and Eve Titus, I'm still a copier?

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~feystarlight Mar 2, 2008, 5:28:32 PM

No. What I meant by free-hand is when someone redraws the exact same picture, but isn't not tracing it (that's always what to freehand something meant to me though in the art world my definition is probably wrong). That situation you described isn't even slightly a form of coping, especially since your dealing with well know characters and if you openly admit it is fanart. Now if you said the character was yours that would be a whole different story.

Does that clear up what I was trying to say?

~Gracie-Gru Mar 2, 2008, 10:21:43 PM

Yes, sorry, I get confused easily sometimes!

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And it must follow, as the night the day,
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